Katherine: In our exciting cozy mystery
Kat Out of the Bag, my Women's History museum tells tales of women throughout the decades. You'd be surprised how helpful the purses of an era can be in telling the stories of the different generations, their lives and their adventures. Isn't that right, Gran? Our Purse-onality museum's number of exhibits is growing in decades. In the upcoming sequel of our
In Purse-Suit Mysteries our exciting new exhibit will be the 1960's.
Pam: Oh yes Katherine, in our book I enjoy helping you with your amateur sleuthing of the murder mystery. Scattered through the pages are also clues about what the purses women carry today can indicate, and the bags men carry. And we investigate handbags from previous generations. In Kat Out of the Bag the newest museum exhibit underway is for the World War II generation. I talk about the adventures of my mother in England during that time and how she answered when duty called.
Katherine: That inspiration came from the author's mother, who worked as a young, volunteer ambulance driver during The War. She also radioed in, and reported on incoming airplanes, watching for them with her binoculars. She got so she could distinguish airplane types just from the engine sound. You describe the effort beautifully in our book.
Pam: I discovered another author with an interest in the tales of WWII era women. M W Arnold's Broken Wing series of books about women of the ATA is so exciting, and is another way to bring the dangers and delights of this period to life within the imaginations of the readers. I've invited Mick to join us.
Katherine: Hello Mick, what first spurred you to write
this book A Wing and A Prayer the first in the Broken Wing series?
Mick: It came about purely by chance. I was off work ill and was finding
it hard to write my then work in progress and an author friend
suggested I look for something new and unrelated. A few days later a
program came on the television called, ‘Spitfire Women’ and
after watching that, it sparked the idea for what became the ‘Broken
Wings’ series.
Katherine: Can you tell us about some of the
research you did about women of the ATA? Any facts that especially
intrigued you?
Mick: Where to start? I have so much admiration for
what these ladies did. Well, for a start, they often flew in weather
which grounded Allied air operations. If an aircraft needed to be
delivered, it was often up to the pilot assigned to the delivery to
make the decision. Depending upon the distances, they often
delivered two, three or more planes a day. Much to the annoyance of
some officers who loved being saluted the ATA were never taught to
salute and even though there a Daily Routine Order in April 1943
announced they were required to salute senior officers, it made no
difference as they never saluted. I'll give you one more wonderful
example of their spirit. One woman once accused a lady pilot of
basically doing this for a hobby. This made her mad and so she
challenged the woman to a fight and when she refused, she offered to
take on the woman’s husband, who chickened out!
Pam: Tell us a little about the dangers
of the job these women did.
Mick: It always amazes people when I talk
about these pilots and I tell them that the planes they flew didn’t
have radios; nor were their guns provided with ammunition. So, if
they got into trouble, not only could they not call for help, but
they couldn’t try to shoot their way out either. It wasn’t
common for planes flown by the ATA to be shot down, but it also
wasn’t unheard of. This, of course, gives me lots of scope for
getting my characters into trouble – which actually occurs in book
3 of the series. At the beginning, they also were not trained to fly
on instruments and because of this, if they flew into cloud or fog,
they could and did fly into the ground or hills.
Pam: Tell us about the planes they flew.
Mick: At first, the idea was the ATA would only deliver training
aircraft, which meant mostly Tiger Moth type biplanes. However, it
quickly became obvious this would be a waste of resources and they
quickly moved on to Spitfires and Hurricanes; just in time for the
Battle of Britain. Indeed, their contribution to the battle should
not be underestimated, the ability to deliver replacement aircraft
was vital. Gradually, the pilots flew everything which the RAF
fought and flew, including four-engine bombers like the Lancaster
and, on occasion, the B17 Flying Fortress if required. The only type
they never flew were flying boats as taking off and landing on water
was considered too specialized even for this incredible group of
aircrew. The even created procedures for flying planes which,
initially, the RAF’s pilots considered too difficult to fly. More
on this will be revealed in my books.
Katherine: How did you decide to include the
American Doris, and can you talk a little about her personality?
Mick: I love Doris! During my research about the ATA, I found out about
their American equivalent, the Women’s Airforce Service Pilots,
or, WASPs. They were treated dreadfully in comparison to their UK
compatriots. Poorly treated, badly thought of and in general, not
taken seriously by their male equivalents, in virtually complete
opposition to their UK colleagues. So, I decided I wanted to have an
American girl as one of my main characters in small tribute. She
gets to do 99% more than she would have been allowed to do, I she’d
have joined the WASPs. She goes into her motivation on joining the
ATA near the start of ‘A Wing and a Prayer’.
Pam: Can you tell us about your
character Penny's motivation to join?
Mick: Penny was a quite well know
pilot pre-war, think Amelia Earhart and Amy Johnson, but has a poor
relationship with her father after the death of her mother. He
disapproves of her flying, especially because she kept getting into
the newspapers, in his opinion, bringing the family name into
disrepute. Under the threat of being married off, she wants to prove
she is her own woman and determines to do what she can for the war
effort.
Katherine: Despite all the dangers, your
characters are filled with humor and camaraderie, is that a
reflection of the real ATA pilots?
Mick: Oh yes. They had to suffer some
terrible nicknames, amongst them, the Lesbian Pool and the Always
Terrified Airwomen. Despite the constant dangers they faced each
day, they were a close bunch who had each other’s backs. Many of
the stories I've come across would not be believed if I wrote about
them. I've used a few so far, and more will appear. Like most
pilots, they were happiest in the air and always up for any job.
Their excellent morale was also helped by their being the first
female workers to be awarded the exact same pay for doing the same
job as their male colleagues.
Katherine: Along with a mystery, there is
also romance in your book A Wing And A Prayer, was this also
true in history?
Mick: Yes, there were instances of RAF pilots marrying
ATA pilots, in fact - don’t tell anyone but this is a spoiler –
Penny has a romance with an RAF pilot. When they met was one of the
most fun scenes I wrote for this book. However, not all romances are
meant to be and that’s certainly true with this series of books.
I'm not going to say anymore though, as that would give away more
plots from book 2 which I hope will the readers will love.
Pam: Not all romance was with pilots during The War. Here you see our author's parents then, a romantic British Army example.
Pam: What hints can you give us about
what's in store in your next book in this series?
Mick: In book 2, ‘Wild
Blue Yonder, we become quite heavily involved with the USAAF (United
States Army Air Force) in Europe. Where I live in the UK there is an
ex-USAAF base called, RAF Polebrook where much of this book is set
and, a certain major film star is based for a while. Without giving
away his name (because, frankly my dear…) he is at the center of
this books mystery. Compared to ‘A Wing and a Prayer’, the
mystery is not as central to the story however, it is vital to the
story which is more based around the developing relationships of the
group of characters.
Pam: Thank you so much for joining us Mick. I love learning more about your books.
Katherine: Yes, thank you so much Mick. What an incredible generation.
Mick: I should like very
much to thank you for the wonderful questions, I had such a lot of
fun answering them, and I hope to be back with you all soon. From
everyone in the United Kingdom, keep safe and look after yourselves.